Midnight Oil

[Powderworks] * trading shows on Direct Connect

lord aufbau lordaufbau@yahoo.com
Thu, 27 Feb 2003 09:51:36 -0800 (PST)

Actually I think Eric and I are both thinking along
the same lines.  The only Direct Connect trading hubs
that I know of only allow shn files and mandate that
they can not be derived from mp3 (which is as it
should be, and I agree with what you said about mp3
100%).  This is the only way to guarantee exact copies
with no degradation of quality.

I don't personally have a problem with the trading of
mp3 versions of shows (I assume that is what is
exchanged via ftp) but I agree that it is essential
that if a show is sourced from mp3 that it be labeled
accordingly as it does not represent a true copy of
the original show. I think the global nature of our
community (which makes snail mail trading costly) and
the limitation of shn trading to those with high speed
connections will mean that mp3 trading will be around
for awhile. That is why it is so important to include
the source whenever trading anything derived from mp3.

My experience with DC is somewhat limited but all of
the hubs that I have used to exchange shn files have a
requirement that at least one full show be shared by
anyone using the hub.  When you load the software for
DC you specify which specific directory you want to be
open for sharing - I assume that indicates that other
users don't have a way to access your entire hard
drive, but I could be wrong.

Anyway, I just wanted to clear up a few things about
Direct Connect trading in the event that it results in
 more interest. Sourcing of the wav files used to
convert to shn files would be from the original disc,
not mp3. I included the link for the software to do
this in my last post.

I haven't had much interest yet, but if  any of you
are interested in trading Midnight Oil shn files on DC
please contact me on or off list and I will try to
organize something.


--- Midnight Oils Tree <MOilTree@hotmail.com> wrote:
> I for one do not like Direct Connect because
> 1. I am very against trading MP3s because they
> degrade the sound quality
> unlike SHNs or audio files
> 2. Direct Connect requires, if I remember correctly
> from when I tried it six
> months ago, that I give access to my hard drive if I
> want to download from
> somewhere else and I won't ever do that.
> I, of course, am in no way putting Brett down for
> his preferences and I do
> believe "to each their own".  However, when it comes
> to me, I will not be
> trading any of the shows from trees I have done in
> the past, via MP3 and/or
> Direct Connect, or for that matter the trees I
> expect to do in the future in
> order to spread the good tunes out to those
> interested in hearing them.  I
> would hope that anybody who trades Oils shows in the
> MP3 format will alway
> clearly identify them as such and not allow audio
> files (WAVs) derived from
> MP3s to enter the trading world without properly
> identifying them as such.
> I hope you do find some folks with similar
> preferences Brett.  It just won't
> be me for one.
> cheers,
> eric
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "lord aufbau" <lordaufbau@yahoo.com>
> To: <powderworks@cs.colorado.edu>
> Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2003 7:20 PM
> Subject: [Powderworks] trading shows on Direct
> Connect
> > Would anyone be interested in meeting on one of
> the
> > bootleg trading hubs on Direct Connect?  I haven't
> > been on Direct Connect much lately, but I have
> never
> > had much luck finding Midnight Oil shows there.
> > Perhaps if we all could agree on a hub to meet at
> we
> > may have some luck trading shows.
> >
> > Must of the bootleg trading sites only allow
> trading
> > of shn files and require that no mp3 sources be
> used.
> > Because shn files are huge that pretty much
> restricts
> > the trading to those of you with high speed
> internet
> > access (unless someone knows of a mp3 bootleg
> trading
> > hub).
> >
> > Software for converting wav files to shn can be
> found
> > at
> > http://home.att.net/~mkw/mkwact.html
> >
> > to download Direct Connect software go to
> >
> >
> >
> > If anyone is interested let me know and I will
> search
> > for a good existing hub to use as our home base. 
> I
> > don't know how to start a hub of our own, but that
> may
> > be possible too.
> >
> > If some of you are already meeting somewhere on
> Direct
> > Connect please let me know!
> >
> > Brett
> >
> >
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