Midnight Oil

[Powderworks] * trading shows on Direct Connect

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Thu, 27 Feb 2003 12:28:38 -0600


good points.  good luck with your hubbing
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "lord aufbau" <lordaufbau@yahoo.com>
To: "Midnight Oils Tree" <MOilTree@hotmail.com>
Cc: <powderworks@cs.colorado.edu>
Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2003 11:51 AM
Subject: Re: [Powderworks] * trading shows on Direct Connect


> Actually I think Eric and I are both thinking along
> the same lines.  The only Direct Connect trading hubs
> that I know of only allow shn files and mandate that
> they can not be derived from mp3 (which is as it
> should be, and I agree with what you said about mp3
> 100%).  This is the only way to guarantee exact copies
> with no degradation of quality.
> 
> I don't personally have a problem with the trading of
> mp3 versions of shows (I assume that is what is
> exchanged via ftp) but I agree that it is essential
> that if a show is sourced from mp3 that it be labeled
> accordingly as it does not represent a true copy of
> the original show. I think the global nature of our
> community (which makes snail mail trading costly) and
> the limitation of shn trading to those with high speed
> connections will mean that mp3 trading will be around
> for awhile. That is why it is so important to include
> the source whenever trading anything derived from mp3.
> 
> My experience with DC is somewhat limited but all of
> the hubs that I have used to exchange shn files have a
> requirement that at least one full show be shared by
> anyone using the hub.  When you load the software for
> DC you specify which specific directory you want to be
> open for sharing - I assume that indicates that other
> users don't have a way to access your entire hard
> drive, but I could be wrong.
> 
> Anyway, I just wanted to clear up a few things about
> Direct Connect trading in the event that it results in
>  more interest. Sourcing of the wav files used to
> convert to shn files would be from the original disc,
> not mp3. I included the link for the software to do
> this in my last post.
> 
> I haven't had much interest yet, but if  any of you
> are interested in trading Midnight Oil shn files on DC
> please contact me on or off list and I will try to
> organize something.
> 
> Brett
> 
> 
> --- Midnight Oils Tree <MOilTree@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > I for one do not like Direct Connect because
> > 
> > 1. I am very against trading MP3s because they
> > degrade the sound quality
> > unlike SHNs or audio files
> > 2. Direct Connect requires, if I remember correctly
> > from when I tried it six
> > months ago, that I give access to my hard drive if I
> > want to download from
> > somewhere else and I won't ever do that.
> > 
> > I, of course, am in no way putting Brett down for
> > his preferences and I do
> > believe "to each their own".  However, when it comes
> > to me, I will not be
> > trading any of the shows from trees I have done in
> > the past, via MP3 and/or
> > Direct Connect, or for that matter the trees I
> > expect to do in the future in
> > order to spread the good tunes out to those
> > interested in hearing them.  I
> > would hope that anybody who trades Oils shows in the
> > MP3 format will alway
> > clearly identify them as such and not allow audio
> > files (WAVs) derived from
> > MP3s to enter the trading world without properly
> > identifying them as such.
> > 
> > I hope you do find some folks with similar
> > preferences Brett.  It just won't
> > be me for one.
> > 
> > cheers,
> > eric
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "lord aufbau" <lordaufbau@yahoo.com>
> > To: <powderworks@cs.colorado.edu>
> > Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2003 7:20 PM
> > Subject: [Powderworks] trading shows on Direct
> > Connect
> > 
> > 
> > > Would anyone be interested in meeting on one of
> > the
> > > bootleg trading hubs on Direct Connect?  I haven't
> > > been on Direct Connect much lately, but I have
> > never
> > > had much luck finding Midnight Oil shows there.
> > > Perhaps if we all could agree on a hub to meet at
> > we
> > > may have some luck trading shows.
> > >
> > > Must of the bootleg trading sites only allow
> > trading
> > > of shn files and require that no mp3 sources be
> > used.
> > > Because shn files are huge that pretty much
> > restricts
> > > the trading to those of you with high speed
> > internet
> > > access (unless someone knows of a mp3 bootleg
> > trading
> > > hub).
> > >
> > > Software for converting wav files to shn can be
> > found
> > > at
> > > http://home.att.net/~mkw/mkwact.html
> > >
> > > to download Direct Connect software go to
> > >
> > >
> >
> http://www.networkingfiles.com/FileShar/Directconnect.htm
> > >
> > > If anyone is interested let me know and I will
> > search
> > > for a good existing hub to use as our home base. 
> > I
> > > don't know how to start a hub of our own, but that
> > may
> > > be possible too.
> > >
> > > If some of you are already meeting somewhere on
> > Direct
> > > Connect please let me know!
> > >
> > > Brett
> > >
> > >
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