[Glitch]

I have very literal tolerance for the use of the word "man" in a
gender-neutral setting.
I hadn't thought of Renaissance Man as being gender neutral.  "Renaissance
Man" is a sort of idiomatic phrase to refer to someone on the cutting edge,
a child of the New Way.  So you're right, it is gender neutral.  But I have
ALWAYS appreciated MO's inclusion of the Renaissance Woman at the end of the
song.  Made me feel more included :-)
-GB

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got your last meal filled up with pesticide
hamburger chain third world infanticide
got robot car your job will disappear
it's called the politics of a brand new year
some say that's progress i say that's cruel

--midnight oil
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> Well, the word "man" does have a gender-neutral meaning when used as an
> abstract pronoun, though admittedly it's not much used that way nowadays
> - But the gender-neutral usage of "man" also pops up in Renaissance Man,
> even if they did toss in a "woman" there at the end to sorta even things
> out. - Beth 
> 
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> [mailto:powderworks-bounces at cs-lists.cs.colorado.edu] On Behalf Of
> Glitch
> Sent: Tuesday, April 13, 2004 7:10 PM
> To: powderworks at cs.colorado.edu
> Subject: Re: [Powderworks] lyrics help?
> 
> I guess that's why I never much liked MTM; I resist the idea of God as a
> man, and when I first heard this song as a kid was incapable of
> understanding irony, sarcasm, satire, or however else you might
> otherwise
> interpret this lyric.  Never much liked it since.  Time for another
> listen,
> this time with "grown up" ears.
> 
> Thanks to all who helped on the Phar Lap thing.  I knew Phar Lap was a
> racehorse and always wondered how or why he would be floating in a jar;
> thought maybe phar lap meant something different in this context.
> 
> -GB
> 
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> got your last meal filled up with pesticide
> hamburger chain third world infanticide
> got robot car your job will disappear
> it's called the politics of a brand new year
> some say that's progress i say that's cruel
> 
> --midnight oil
> ----------------------------------------------------
> 
> 
> 
>> That would be way better, a great lyric and idea. "Everybody say God
> is
>> a good man" means arrogant presumption on the part of people to even
>> assume that God is a man. And in that light, the lyric "Is he his own
>> man?" (as opposed to being the "man" some people presume "he" is) is
>> brilliant. I hope it's what they meant.
>> 
>> -Jim
>> 
>> 
>> On Apr 11, 2004, at 8:15 PM, Andy Gillcrist wrote:
>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> 1.  Reckon it still is "Is he a Soul Man" on the original CD
>>> 
>>> To me, this has always sounded like "Is he his own man?"  And I
>>> even thought I saw that written down somewhere, but I'm damned
>>> if I can remember where now.
>>> 
>>> Andy
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