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[Powderworks] Re: NMOC: Andropovosphere

Kate Parker Adams kate@dnki.net
Wed, 24 Sep 2003 07:54:09 -0400

I don't recall "Andropovosphere" being used in the West outside of Whoh! 
either.  I think it is original oils and intended to fit with the generally 
spacey and allegorical mood of the song.  We all know who the "man with the 
landslide" is.  In the same song we get "drunken machinery" and "they 
always dream of the time when those men come from West Point".  West Point 
being the military academy for the US Army (Annapolis is Navy and it's 
Marines as a sub-unit, Air Force Academy for, well, Air Force).

The Soviet Union no longer exists ... it has fragmented into sovereign 
republics of Russia, Georgia, Belarus, Ukraine, and several others ending 
in "stan" I cannot recall.

In the west there was the invevitable speculation about poisoning of both 
Andropov and Chernyenko (sp?) because they served slightly more and 
slightly less than a year each.  Yes, they were sick old men - but Andropov 
died of acute kidney failure, a common mode of demise for those who are 
poisoned.  He was also reclusive and not widely known to have been ill this 
side of the Iron Curtain (need I define that?).

Youngsters! :-)

Off to work with me ...

At 04:55 PM 9/24/03 -1000, jeffm@jeack.com.au wrote:
>Hi Alexei,
>Wow, this mail is very interesting in itself.
>Did that "theatre thing" happen to you?  That must have been terrifying.
>Can you see anything bad about the implementation of capitalism in the
>Former Soviet Union?  Do you have the opinion that it was good and bad?
>And are you still in the Soviet Union?  (I know your mail address ends in
>usa.net, but stranger things have happened! :) )
> >Interesting... having lived in the Soviet Union all my life I never heard>
> >term... who was it coined by and what does it refer to?  I do remember
> >period very, very vividly, though (was 21-22 then): there you are sitting>
>in a
> >movie theater during the day, and the lights come up and all exits are
> >and some special units move in to check everybody's reasons for not being>
> >work during business hours, and taking away those who did not sound
> >or had no excuse...  Andropov had been head of the KGB for many years
> >he was elected to succeed Brezhnev, and hence these methods of his to
> >discipline people.  I don't recall any resemblance of discussion in the
> >post-Soviet media with regard to the reasons of his passing.  It is known>
> >a fact that Andropov was a very sick man even before he took charge of
> >country.  It is widely believed, though, that Andropov's attempts to
> >some order to the country predated many components of Gorbachov's
> >policies aimed at reviving initiative, etc.  The message being, he used
> >techniques just because he did not know any other.
> >
> >
> >>It's "Andropovosphere" and it refers to a Yuri Andropov, very briefly
>th>e >
> >>leader of the Soviet Union in the 1980s prior to the Glasnost of
> >
> >>and the collapse of communist rule.  As I recall, Andropov was very >
> >>reclusive and very possibly murdered, given the length of his tenure.
> >>
> >>At 12:31 PM 9/24/03 -1000, you wrote:
> >>
> >>>i am loathe to ask, because i know somewhere in the powdies deep dark
> >past
> >>>this subject was covered, but does anyone know to what the
> >>>"androporosphere" refers?
> >>>
> >>>cheers,
> >>>joffa
> >>>http://www.jeack.com.au
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Kate Parker Adams
"She's gonna dream up the world she wants to live in,
She's gonna dream out loud" - U2 (Zooropa)
go Out Of Mind ... http://www.dnki.net/blog