[Powderworks] (no subject)
Jeff McLean
jeffm at jeack.com.au
Thu Sep 9 04:11:34 MDT 2004
why MUST you go for the seat you live in?
you gotta do better than that for an argument...
marty wrote:
>why didnt he go for the seat that he lives in then?
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>From: "Jeff McLean" <jeffm at jeack.com.au>
>To: <powderworks at cs-lists.cs.colorado.edu>
>Sent: Thursday, September 09, 2004 8:50 AM
>Subject: Re: [Powderworks] (no subject)
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>>interesting message.
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>>there's another way to look at it. there's some wonderful people in the
>>labour (and liberal) party and thankfully they are there, working away,
>>usually facelessly.
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>>if not, our policies would go to the dogs even more and be dicated to by
>>selfish systems buoyed by media commentary and air time.
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>>we need more PGs in the labour and liberal parties - don't stop them going
>>there by not voting for them; it's the only way reason will be seen and
>>have a better chance in the parties.
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>>if we elect more people who are sensitive to these issues, they have a
>>better chance of being delivered as policy through the major (and minor)
>>parties. i believe peter will continue campaigning within the labor party
>>strongly for the issues he feels strongest about. i hope it's not blind
>>faith, but i can see why he's doing what he purports to be doing and i'd
>>need to see SOLID evidence to convince me of the opposite (not just
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>someone
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>>raving about one thing he may have done contrary to my expectations - i've
>>heard some of these over the years, and quite frankly, believe they've
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>>"tall poppy"-type misrepresentations of the bloke. anyway, i digress...)
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>>on the other hand, w.r.t how we should vote, if you live in kingsford, and
>>you believe what peter is doing, then vote for him. get him in so he can
>>continue to speak strongly in the party, and if he wins the seat in the
>>election, he'll do it with power behind him. similarly, in other seats,
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>>you truly believe your labor or liberal candidate is a good person vying
>>for decent unselfish principles, vote the "bastards" IN!!!
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>>if neither of the previous apply, make your vote count the most effective
>>way - avoid the bloody "how to vote" cards, and make up your own mind.
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>>mine, i put minor parties first and ensure the major parties are right
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>>the bottom ("left to right" for the last positions of course), and if
>>there's any nazi-type independents, i'll vote for them after the main
>>parties. i wish everyone would vote like that.
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>>don't fall for the same old bullshit - "oh, don't bother voting for anyone
>>else - it's gonna be one or the other of the two major parties."
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>>if you do this, you undermine the great aspects of our system.
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>>well, that's enough of my ranting for the moment.
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>>enjoy the vote, and the vote count, and may the best team win. go dons!!!
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>>>HELLO
>>>to all powderworkers and i havent been in touch with you guys latley as
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>>i
>>didnt want any of you guys to banish me as what i am about to >deliver..
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>>>i have been an oil fan since 1978 and do remember all the ealy gigs as
>>>well as going with them right through the dead heart and rednck and even
>>>the born again christian breathe
>>>era,,,but buggered if i will sit back and feel proud about pete joining
>>>the .labour party,,,,i am ashamed of him and have tried to contact him
>>>several times,,,i spoke to rob hirst on saturday nite and he basically
>>>agreed with me all but saying it,,,
>>>if the world wants real change it will never happen by our green heroes
>>>joining a party of liars and conmen who cover there arses by pretending
>>>to be socialists and enviromentalists and working for the greater
>>>australia...
>>>if he had of joined the liberal party we would have all wanted his
>>>head,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,i got news for you,,,
>>>todays labour party is and has the same veiws as yesterdays liberal
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>>party
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>>>when we threw ourselves in front of bulldozers in tasmainia;;;;;
>>>i grew up with my dad a member of the labour party going to meetings as
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>>a
>>6 year old with a sleeping bag and a book,,
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>>>and i know how the labour party and liberal parties operate;;;
>>>independent and green are the only way to rid ourselves of this redneck
>>>wonderland,,if not in my life time maybe in my kids ,,spread the
>>>word.......
>>>i mean can anyone out there tell me honestly that he will make a
>>>change........................................................
>>>many have tried before;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;
>>>politics is politics
>>>my appologies to anyone with the dreams that voting labour because of
>>>pete will
>>>1.free refugees
>>>2 stop oil tankers near the barrier reef
>>>3 reduce green house admissions
>>>4 create employment in forestry areas
>>>5 stop urban sprawl
>>>6 clean our beaches
>>>7 reduce rap homie crap coming out of 4 cylinder hyundis
>>>the last one i think is impossible
>>>anyway if anyone agrees with one thing please consider voting for your
>>>local independent or green candidate in our next election
>>>marty
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