Midnight Oil

[Powderworks] lyrics help? - has become NMOC by now

Mathias Hermansson hermanator51 at hotmail.com
Thu Apr 15 00:27:03 MDT 2004


Well, that'd be better than nothing. This list has been as silent as the 
Oils for a long time now so I am just happy to see that it is still alive 
and that there is some traffic here. That is a good sign of eagernessamong 
us fans! We don't want to resign just because the Oils has recorded their 
last album!

/Herman

>Herman, yer risking getting the token freethinker on the list started on
>another theological NMOC..... However, that was not my intention, just
>trying to cut the Oilz a little slack on their choice of pronouns. -
>Beth
>
>-----Original Message-----
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>[mailto:powderworks-bounces at cs-lists.cs.colorado.edu] On Behalf Of
>Mathias Hermansson
>Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 2004 1:30 AM
>To: bcurran at columbus.rr.com; sena.reisenweaver at verizon.net;
>powderworks at cs.colorado.edu
>Subject: RE: [Powderworks] lyrics help? - has become NMOC by now
>
>Close but no cigarr, Beth!
>
>Even that way I don't think it does justice to the great divine. The
>gender-neutral word "man" does imply the meaning "mankind" which would
>make
>the lyrics say that God was a good being of mankind. I don't like to
>think
>that God is of mankind. He/She must, IMHO, be of another kind, otherwise
>God
>would not be Divine/Holy/God but just some big boss...
>
>I Ould not agree the God is a good MAN or for that sake a good WOMAN but
>
>rather God is a good GOD!
>
>/Herman - son of a daughter of a preacherman
>
>
> >Well, the word "man" does have a gender-neutral meaning when used as an
> >abstract pronoun, though admittedly it's not much used that way
>nowadays
> >- But the gender-neutral usage of "man" also pops up in Renaissance
>Man,
> >even if they did toss in a "woman" there at the end to sorta even
>things
> >out. - Beth
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: powderworks-bounces at cs-lists.cs.colorado.edu
> >[mailto:powderworks-bounces at cs-lists.cs.colorado.edu] On Behalf Of
> >Glitch
> >Sent: Tuesday, April 13, 2004 7:10 PM
> >To: powderworks at cs.colorado.edu
> >Subject: Re: [Powderworks] lyrics help?
> >
> >I guess that's why I never much liked MTM; I resist the idea of God as
>a
> >man, and when I first heard this song as a kid was incapable of
> >understanding irony, sarcasm, satire, or however else you might
> >otherwise
> >interpret this lyric.  Never much liked it since.  Time for another
> >listen,
> >this time with "grown up" ears.
> >
> >Thanks to all who helped on the Phar Lap thing.  I knew Phar Lap was a
> >racehorse and always wondered how or why he would be floating in a jar;
> >thought maybe phar lap meant something different in this context.
> >
> >-GB
> >
> >----------------------------------------------------
> >got your last meal filled up with pesticide
> >hamburger chain third world infanticide
> >got robot car your job will disappear
> >it's called the politics of a brand new year
> >some say that's progress i say that's cruel
> >
> >--midnight oil
> >----------------------------------------------------
> >
> >
> >
> > > That would be way better, a great lyric and idea. "Everybody say God
> >is
> > > a good man" means arrogant presumption on the part of people to even
> > > assume that God is a man. And in that light, the lyric "Is he his
>own
> > > man?" (as opposed to being the "man" some people presume "he" is) is
> > > brilliant. I hope it's what they meant.
> > >
> > > -Jim
> > >
> > >
> > > On Apr 11, 2004, at 8:15 PM, Andy Gillcrist wrote:
> > >
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>> 1.  Reckon it still is "Is he a Soul Man" on the original CD
> > >>
> > >> To me, this has always sounded like "Is he his own man?"  And I
> > >> even thought I saw that written down somewhere, but I'm damned
> > >> if I can remember where now.
> > >>
> > >> Andy
> > >>
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