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  I know Kate did have a few lessons though i don't
  think she really had formal training and if you listen
  to anything off the Dreaming there is no rules
  applied anywhere!.

  I think any musical training is really fucked and
  takes away original thought or creativity. Art of any
  kind should have no rules!!!!

  I do know a really amazing guitarist who has had
  a lot of formal training. All he tries to do now is get
  as far away as possible from his classical roots and
  constantly reminds me how shallow and lifeless
  Jazz and other formal musical styles often are.

  In summing up i really want to make it clear that
  Peter Garrett's untrained voice is one of the most
  amazing voices i will ever hear.


>From: "Beth Curran" <bcurran@columbus.rr.com>
>To: <powderworks@cs.colorado.edu>
>Subject: [Powderworks] More on untrained singers
>Date: Thu, 15 May 2003 21:21:35 -0400
>
>OK, this is driving me nuts.  After the thread on "real" lead singers,
>I've been flipping through my CDs, and (limiting this discussion to rock
>only, no soul or country or world or whatever) I found exactly one
>person in the bunch who's a real singer with a trained voice - or at
>least, what passes for one:  Kate Bush.  I seem to have this preference
>for not-real-singers:  Garrett, Fagan, Knopfler (definitely can't sing),
>David Byrne, Richard Butler (reeeeeally reeeeally can't sing),
>Springsteen, the list goes on.  Joe and I started discussing this, and
>he proposed Elvis, which I think is barely possible, and Freddie Mercury
>- powerful, yes, trained, no.  I always thought somewhere under Billy
>Idol's posturing was a real nice baritone - but you only ever got
>glimpses, beside his voice was always muffled from having his head up
>his ass.  Can somebody propose a real singer among male rock leads
>before I lose my mind? - Beth
>
>

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