Midnight Oil

[Powderworks] NMOC: Getting out alive

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Tue, 25 Feb 2003 23:54:15 EST


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Thank you for posting this, Kate. I have also been told that if you *are* 
knocked down and people are piling on top of you, try to lie on your side 
(instead of your front or back) to avoid getting suffocated. On NBC's 
"Nightline" I just heard the story of a survivor of the Rhode Island fire who 
stayed alive under a pile of bodies. He lay in a fetal position and did not 
panic.

Stay safe,
Patty, lurking in Maryland

In a message dated 2/22/2003 12:26:06 AM Eastern Standard Time, kate@dnki.net 
writes:


> I'm sure most of you have heard about the Rhode Island nightclub fire last 
> night, as well as the stampede in Chicago over the weekend.  The latest 
> death toll in Rhode Island is 96 dead, 34 critically injured.
> 
> Since most of us powderworkers go to clubs several times a year or more and 
> 
> a few here even get to take the stage, I think a NMOC public service thread 
> 
> is in order.
> 
> I clipped the info below from a Boston Globe online article - it discusses 
> personal safety in a nightclub setting.  Of course there is sometimes 
> little you can do about a bad situation - but knowing where the emergency 
> exits are can make the difference between life and death when time is 
> short.  If anyone has anything to add here, please go ahead.
> 
> I'm just thankful the Oils wouldn't be so wreckless and stupid as Great 
> White was with their pyrotechnics in an old firetrap.
> 
> In safety,
> Kate
> 
> Excerpted from the Boston Globe 
> http://boston.com/news/daily/21/nightclub_safety.htmSafety
> 
> Experts said there are few good options for people caught in a panicked 
> crowd; the best advice, they said, is to avoid getting into a stampede in 
> the first place.
> 
> "People need to take ownership of their safety," said Division Chief 
> Theodore Saunders of the Baltimore Fire Department. "Look around, identify 
> where the exits are."
> 
> Philadelphia Fire Commissioner Harold Hairston said nightclub and theater 
> patrons should not only formulate an exit plan but also be prepared to 
> telephone authorities if they see something at the venue that looks unsafe. 
> 
> He said his department is ready to dispatch inspectors for spot checks.
> 
> Gary Keith urged people to react swiftly if they sense something is amiss.
> "If it doesn't feel right, it probably isn't right," he said. "Move toward 
> the exit immediately, in an orderly fashion. You can always come back in 
> later."


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<HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT  SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=
=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">Thank you for posting this, Kate. I have also been tol=
d that if you *are* knocked down and people are piling on top of you, try to=
 lie on your side (instead of your front or back) to avoid getting suffocate=
d. On NBC's "Nightline" I just heard the story of a survivor of the Rhode Is=
land fire who stayed alive under a pile of bodies. He lay in a fetal positio=
n and did not panic.<BR>
<BR>
Stay safe,<BR>
Patty, lurking in Maryland<BR>
<BR>
In a message dated 2/22/2003 12:26:06 AM Eastern Standard Time, kate@dnki.ne=
t writes:<BR>
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 about the Rhode Island nightclub fire last <BR>
night, as well as the stampede in Chicago over the weekend.&nbsp; The latest=
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death toll in Rhode Island is 96 dead, 34 critically injured.<BR>
<BR>
Since most of us powderworkers go to clubs several times a year or more and=20=
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a few here even get to take the stage, I think a NMOC public service thread=20=
<BR>
is in order.<BR>
<BR>
I clipped the info below from a Boston Globe online article - it discusses <=
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personal safety in a nightclub setting.&nbsp; Of course there is sometimes <=
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little you can do about a bad situation - but knowing where the emergency <B=
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exits are can make the difference between life and death when time is <BR>
short.&nbsp; If anyone has anything to add here, please go ahead.<BR>
<BR>
I'm just thankful the Oils wouldn't be so wreckless and stupid as Great <BR>
White was with their pyrotechnics in an old firetrap.<BR>
<BR>
In safety,<BR>
Kate<BR>
<BR>
Excerpted from the Boston Globe <BR>
http://boston.com/news/daily/21/nightclub_safety.htmSafety<BR>
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Experts said there are few good options for people caught in a panicked <BR>
crowd; the best advice, they said, is to avoid getting into a stampede in <B=
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the first place.<BR>
<BR>
"People need to take ownership of their safety," said Division Chief <BR>
Theodore Saunders of the Baltimore Fire Department. "Look around, identify <=
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where the exits are."<BR>
<BR>
Philadelphia Fire Commissioner Harold Hairston said nightclub and theater <B=
R>
patrons should not only formulate an exit plan but also be prepared to <BR>
telephone authorities if they see something at the venue that looks unsafe.=20=
<BR>
He said his department is ready to dispatch inspectors for spot checks.<BR>
<BR>
Gary Keith urged people to react swiftly if they sense something is amiss.<B=
R>
"If it doesn't feel right, it probably isn't right," he said. "Move toward <=
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the exit immediately, in an orderly fashion. You can always come back in <BR=
>
later."</BLOCKQUOTE><BR>
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