[Powderworks] Bash...meaning of an emasculated Milky Way
Beth Curran
bcurran@columbus.rr.com
Mon, 21 Oct 2002 17:48:04 -0400
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Yes, it's an interesting blend of a masculine and feminine image there.
That said, let's move over to RTS, which is pretty straightforward
erotic imagery, especially when you consider the song as a whole - you
can't really separate the words out, the way it's sung has a lot to do
with it.
Didn't mean to confuse anybody by switching to a different lyric. I
think RW is a very coherent piece of work. I didn't like it at all the
first dozen or so times I listened to it (except RTS!), but then
something clicked and it all just kind of fell into place, especially
the first half.
Beth "Just enough psychology to be dangerous"
-----Original Message-----
From: powderworks-admin@cs.colorado.edu
[mailto:powderworks-admin@cs.colorado.edu] On Behalf Of Kate Adams
Sent: Sunday, October 20, 2002 7:45 PM
To: powderworks
Subject: Re: [Powderworks] Bash...meaning of an emasculated Milky Way
I'd bet you are right on that Jim.
I was appalled by how little of the Milky Way is visible when I moved to
Massachusetts, having been raised in both extremely rural and urban
areas of Oregon and always having it near at eye.
My six-year-old son froze in his tracks on the way to the restroom in
the middle of the night while camping last August. We were in an area
of central Oregon with generally dry air and two-hundred fifty miles
from any significant light source. Even though there were still clouds
present after a rare rain, we could see the milky way through them.
Such is the power of extreme haze of light and particulate pollution.
Emasculated indeed.
At 05:23 PM 10/20/02 -0700, you wrote:
I think the meaning is fairly straightforward.
"The Milky Way is emasculated" seems to mean simply that it's blocked by
all the air
pollution of the city. It's vigor, it's strength is blocked by exhaust
fumes (it's
been castrated, in a sense), and one might add light pollution and
everything else
which chops off the strength and virility of the great Milky Way.
I never knew that the Milky Way band was visible until I was 19 years
old and went
West for the first time. Even in the Ohio countryside where I grew up,
it wasn't
visible at night because of the air pollution. But, when you see it for
the first
time, it's an awesome experience, and you begin to wonder what about the
city lights
and mountains of concrete has been lost, has always been missing without
even
knowing it's gone.
"Emasculated" is a male metaphor, and typically the sky in most
mythologies is seen
as male whereas anything earthly is female. The union of the female
earth to the
male sky has been torn apart by the dirty air, the sky's strength
blocked by it. (I
think that's what they mean).
And, I think the metaphor is very apt, if a little unclear at first.
"Concrete" is
probably my favorite song on the Redneck Wonderland album in part
because I can
relate very well to much of the loss in considering industrialized
culture.
I can't speak for the band, but that's my best guess what they mean.
Jim Macdonald
http://www.yellowstone-online.com <http://www.yellowstone-online.com/>
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Yes, it’s an interesting =
blend of a
masculine and feminine image there.<span =
style=3D'mso-spacerun:yes'>
</span><span class=3DGramE>That</span> said, let’s move over to =
RTS, which
is pretty straightforward erotic imagery, especially when you consider =
the song
as a whole – you can’t really separate the words out, the =
way it’s
sung has a lot to do with it.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><span class=3DGramE><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy =
face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Didn’t =
mean to
confuse anybody by switching to a different =
lyric.</span></font></span><font
size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:navy'> <span style=3D'mso-spacerun:yes'> </span>I think RW is =
a very
coherent piece of work.<span style=3D'mso-spacerun:yes'> </span>I =
didn’t
like it at all the first dozen or so times I listened to it (except =
RTS!), but
then something clicked and it all just kind of fell into place, =
especially the
first half.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Beth “Just enough psychology =
to be
dangerous”<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
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face=3DTahoma><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>-----Original =
Message-----<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>From:</span></b>
powderworks-admin@cs.colorado.edu =
[mailto:powderworks-admin@cs.colorado.edu] <b><span
style=3D'font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Kate Adams<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Sunday, October 20, =
2002
7:45 PM<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> powderworks<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: =
[Powderworks]
Bash...meaning of an emasculated Milky Way</span></font></p>
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<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D3 =
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>I'd bet you are right on that Jim.<br>
<br>
I was appalled by how little of the Milky Way is visible when I moved to
Massachusetts, having been raised in both extremely rural and urban =
areas of
Oregon and always having it near at eye.<br>
<br>
My six-year-old son froze in his tracks on the way to the restroom in =
the
middle of the night while camping last August. We were in an area =
of
central Oregon with generally dry air and two-hundred fifty miles from =
any
significant light source. Even though there were still clouds =
present
after a rare rain, <i><span style=3D'font-style:italic'>we could see the =
milky
way through them</span></i>. <br>
<br>
Such is the power of extreme haze of light and particulate =
pollution.
Emasculated indeed.<br>
<br>
At 05:23 PM 10/20/02 -0700, you wrote:<br>
<br style=3D'mso-special-character:line-break'>
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<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D3 =
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>I think the meaning is fairly =
straightforward.<br>
<br>
"The Milky Way is emasculated" seems to mean simply that it's =
blocked
by all the air<br>
pollution of the city. It's vigor, it's strength is blocked by =
exhaust
fumes (it's<br>
been castrated, in a sense), and one might add light pollution and =
everything
else<br>
which chops off the strength and virility of the great Milky Way.<br>
<br>
I never knew that the Milky Way band was visible until I was 19 years =
old and
went<br>
West for the first time. Even in the Ohio countryside where I grew =
up, it
wasn't<br>
visible at night because of the air pollution. But, when you see =
it for
the first<br>
time, it's an awesome experience, and you begin to wonder what about the =
city
lights<br>
and mountains of concrete has been lost, has always been missing without =
even<br>
knowing it's gone.<br>
<br>
"Emasculated" is a male metaphor, and typically the sky in =
most
mythologies is seen<br>
as male whereas anything earthly is female. The union of the =
female earth
to the<br>
male sky has been torn apart by the dirty air, the sky's strength =
blocked by
it. (I<br>
think that's what they mean).<br>
<br>
And, I think the metaphor is very apt, if a little unclear at =
first.
"Concrete" is<br>
probably my favorite song on the Redneck Wonderland album in part =
because I can<br>
relate very well to much of the loss in considering industrialized =
culture.<br>
<br>
I can't speak for the band, but that's my best guess what they mean.<br>
<br>
Jim Macdonald<br>
<a href=3D"http://www.yellowstone-online.com/" =
eudora=3Dautourl>http://www.yellowstone-online.com</a><br>
<br>
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