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[Powderworks] the aftermath

Timothy Towns towns@us.ibm.com
Thu, 7 Nov 2002 08:24:18 -0700


Yes, as many have pointed out we are lucky to live in the US.  However, now
that Mr. Bush has his "mandate", he is bound to act with renewed vigor in
areas like preemptive strikes against "rogue" nations, the destruction of
the environment, the reproductive rights of women, and the long lasting
effects of appointing conservative judges.  Few, if any, Republican
lawmakers will stand up to him.  This election is cause for concern and it
means we have to work harder to get the message out on what we hold dear.

Tim Towns
towns@us.ibm.com


Eel Bonjack <scissormansnip@yahoo.com>@cs.colorado.edu on 11/06/2002
05:19:03 PM

Sent by:    powderworks-admin@cs.colorado.edu


To:    Jim Macdonald <jsmacdonaldjr@yahoo.com>, Randy Van Vliet
       <bigdaddyrv@yahoo.com>, powderworks@cs.colorado.edu
cc:    powderpolitics@yahoogroups.com
Subject:    Re: [Powderworks] the aftermath



Friends,
there is still hope.
But don't underestimate evil.
Bush capitalized on 9/11 so shamelessly
(and I dare say that he let it happen, and turned a
blind eye to it,and I don't mean Dubya, the Howdy
Doody puppet by that, but Cheney, Rumsfeld, and the
rest of the Sith), and of course has instigated war
while neglecting responsibilities we have here on our
soil, but you all know about that.... he's merciless
and blind and we'll have to be ready for it.
4 days ago I was in the Boston commons at a big Peace
Rally, Tim Robbins, Howard Zinn, and Jill Stein (more
on her later) were there, and in the face of all this
about to happen, it was inspiring. I expected the GOP
to sweep as they did, but there was a true spirit of
resistance there, and Peter Garrett would have fit
right in with the other speakers, of course.
I volunteered this year for Jill Stein, who was the
Green Massachusetts candidate for governor, and we
made our quota of votes to validate our party. we did
not spoil the election, b/c our democratic candidate
was a flake, and the margin was too wide. People who
saw the gubernatorial debates had to admit that Jill
was the only one who had any brains at all, but they
were too afraid of "spoiling" the election, that fear
factor has to be overcome. I am upset today, but this
all prepared me for it a little bit. So Randy, yes,
its true, being locally active is smart, b/c thats how
to be effective, as to answer the question what can we
do about this, I only have one word:grassroots.

so:n-e ways, if anybody's interested, I have a forward
by Gore Vidal assessing the state of this so called
union, who is a favorite writer of Mr. Garrett's of
course.......


--- Jim Macdonald <jsmacdonaldjr@yahoo.com> wrote:
> I doubt we've hit rock bottom yet, and I'm not sure
> we'll know it when we do.  I
> mean, if we can't remember as Democrats for 2 years
> that the Presidency was stolen
> in 2000 and that the voice of the voters was
> disenfranchised, I don't hold out much
> hope for us.  I'm not saying we won't win elections
> again.  Undoubtedly, we will.
> What I'm saying is that the answers to the hopes and
> fortunes of politics are
> blowin' in the wind.
>
> Hopefully, for people like us, we'll be motivated by
> something less than dire
> straits.  After all, our beds are burning right now,
> and we're sleeping just fine.
> But, people like us at least have the advantage of
> seeing our Dali moment, that we
> are at least aware that we are sleeping in burning
> beds.  And, what's worse, we know
> it gets much worse.
>
> I guess I'm wondering not what are we going to do
> about it, because I already sense
> the answer is "not a damn thing," but what it is we
> want to do about it?  What kind
> of world do each of the people here want to live in?
>
> I want to live somewhere near my own Luritja Way.
>
> Keep dreaming,
>
> Jim Macdonald
>
>
> --- Randy Van Vliet <bigdaddyrv@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > While I also am dismayed by the current election
> > results, Have some faith in the American people,
> dude!
> >
> > I agree that the American system has been failing
> for
> > years.  But, sometimes you have to hit bottom
> before
> > you get back up.  Perpaps this is the bottom (I
> HOPE
> > so, I don't know if I can take much more).  There
> are
> > small pockets of success.  In my small town we had
> a
> > city council dominated by people so beholden to a
> > certain developer that several of his pet projects
> > were rushed through with out public input or a
> even
> > EIR's.  So, we worked hard to develop alternative
> > candidates and today our city council is much more
> > independent.  Work hard for change and it just
> might
> > surprise you what you can do.  Just don't give up.
>
> >
> > Randy
> > --- Eel Bonjack <scissormansnip@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > It is a dark day for democracy, for freedom in
> the
> > > world's biggest superpower. Apparently,
> Republicans
> > > are going to be in control of Congress, and
> there
> > > will
> > > be no balance of power. Our so called
> "President's"
> > > administration is a joke, but not a funny one.
> > > Apparently, his tactic of trying to invade a
> third
> > > world country just to get more oil and to look
> > > patriotic has worked. IT divided and conquered
> the
> > > Democrats (who are no good themselves) and our
> > > stupid
> > > media makes him look like a hero for it. I'm
> sure
> > > many
> > > of you in other countries have a different
> angle.
> > > Well I must echo again and again, that he is as
> > > idiotic and as dangerous as ever, and even more
> > > emphatically, NOT MY PRESIDENT. He is the first
> > > American dictator, and I don't mean this
> > > rhetorically.
> > > He was NOT democratically elected, yet this time
> > > around, his manipulation worked differently, and
> all
> > > too well. I underestimated the intelligence of
> the
> > > American public when I thought most people would
> see
> > > right through it (Why has Enron disappeared off
> the
> > > front page?) Our system of democracy, of checks
> and
> > > balances is now dead, it has now failed and
> > > malfunctioned. It has been sick for years,
> granted,
> > > but now its flatlining. Bush will not
> stop;slowly
> > > but
> > > surely, he will take away more freedom of
> > > expression,
> > > kill everybody who disagrees with him, and it
> will
> > > happen right before our very eyes, subtly but
> > > effectively.
> > >
> > > Its better to die on your feet than to live on
> your
> > > knees.
> > >
> > > =====
> > > "Stories are the most important thing in the
> world.
> > > Without stories, we would be nothing at all."
> > > -Philip Pullman
> > >
> > >
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