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[Powderworks] Re: [Powderworks]NMOC introduce yourself-educate yourself

Patrick Collins patandmichelle@hotmail.com
Tue, 05 Mar 2002 08:44:54 +0000


Fantastic!

But Todd, come on get it right will you?  It's "fellatio", not "fallacio".  
tsk tsk. ;)

Cheers,

P.



>From: "fluw" <fluwdot@earthlink.net>
>To: "Matthew Marzullo" <mmarzullo@usa.com>, <powderworks@cs.colorado.edu>
>Subject: Re: [Powderworks] introduce yourself-educate yourself
>Date: Mon, 4 Mar 2002 21:22:16 -0600
>
>Aw, come on. The products from drilling in Alaska wouldn't be ready for use
>by Americans until 2010 and the most that American oil interests could get
>out of the refuge is equal to two months worth of oil for the whole 
>country.
>Most everybody knows this basic information. Stop with this crap, will ya? 
>I
>don't mean to be inhospitable to the "new guy," but most everything you
>pointed out is either completely untenable or absurd to say the least. The
>bit about cocaine and DUI's is a relevant character issue in light of the
>extreme hypocrisy  in American politics in the past few years. Bush escaped
>these issues following five wasted years by Congress, over 55 million
>dollars in taxpayer money spent, and a national/constitutional crisis over
>fallacio between consenting adults. If the current White House squatter was
>required to live up to the standards and responsibilities needed for
>presidential office, he would be back to begging for loans from his daddy's
>friends for another corporate scam like the one he pulled on the citizens 
>of
>Arlington, Texas, in 1991. There, Bush used a citizen tax scam and the 
>Texas
>Ranger Baseball team as his gravy train.
>
>O.K. now dogging - dodging, it is merely a fucking typo. Might I point out
>that your calling this mailing list a "site" is an error much more
>significant than the former? But are these less than interesting trivial
>quips more relevant than the facts? How very republican of you focusing on
>the trivial in order to obfuscate the issues. Given this tactic I guess a
>blow job is worse than the toxic air in Houston due to laws passed by "W"
>relaxing corporate polluter penalties, regulations and clean air standards
>for the profit of campaign funding buddies like and including Kenneth Lay.
>
>But I'll give you the benefit of the doubt that your ignorance is speaking
>for you and not patriotism manipulated and manufactured by elite dynastic
>CIA/oil barons. Read with an open mind everything on the link pages for at
>least the next 6 months along with whatever you're reading now. Then try 
>and
>put together a balanced opinion worthy of being heard. While you're at it 
>do
>as those who fancy living in a true democracy do (not just a network
>consumer capitalist society) and order/watch Free Speech TV.
>
>http://www.buzzflash.com/
>http://www.fstv.org
>http://www.corpwatch.org/
>http://www.corpwatch.org/research/PRLH.jsp
>http://www.thenation.com
>
>
>Those should get you started and if you follow some links and do your own
>research you may very well find the truth much different and things in
>general much more complex than you were previously allowed to believe.
>To say it is not popular to like W around these parts might be true, but it
>is not about popularity or dogma that this becomes a reality. Supporting
>such a fundamentally corrupt man from a historically mendacious and vicious
>family is merely unfathomable to most people possessing an ounce of
>compassion and conscience.
>
>About your love of Midnight Oil...Bravo and yes they do write some catchy
>little ditties.have you listened to the lyrics.ever?
>
>And finally, (I bet you all were happy to hear that one) I am a Texan and
>have personally witnessed what this man "W" is capable of. And let me tell
>you in a style true to the White House imposters own, "It ain't pretty."
>Enron is only the tip of the oil field y'all.
>
>BTW I work in a library and consume massive amounts of highly credible
>information daily. So my opinion as compared to those used to watching the
>local and network news may seem a bit swayed to the left, but I assure you 
>I
>couldn't care less for political leanings, parties etc. I am merely forming
>opinions based upon a passion for details that contain quality and 
>diversity
>of information that I, under my own volition, seek out. If the news finds
>you, it is more than likely not even near the truth.
>
>nothing ever happens - nothing really matters - no one ever tells me so 
>what
>am i to know............READ ABOUT IT!!!!!
>
>todd
>
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Matthew Marzullo" <mmarzullo@usa.com>
>To: <powderworks@cs.colorado.edu>
>Sent: Monday, March 04, 2002 4:07 PM
>Subject: [Powderworks] introduce yourself / car salesman?
>
>
> > Hi everyone:
> >
> > This is my first post...been a huge Oils fan for about 10 years now.  
>I've
>lurked on this list for a while but have never posted.  I've noticed the
>anti-Bush sentiment on this site, and while I appreciate everyone's right 
>to
>his or her opinion, I feel compelled to defend my President (yes, the one I
>proudy voted for), unpopular as that might be.
> >
> > Todd wrote:  "gosh please except my sympathy bruce..... being a car
>salesman is one thing
> > but a coke snorting, fund siphoning, draft dogging, dui driving, planet
> > polluting, big business bribe taking, weasel faced car salesman should
>never
> > be a president!!!! "
> >
> > Let's see...
> > - I don't see how 'Coke snorting' and 'DUI driving' are even relevant,
>especially regarding the last President we have.  Last I heard, these were
>problems Bush dealt with over 20 years ago.  Todd, I suppose all mistakes
>you've made in your life have rendered you incompetent to perfrom your job,
>whatever that may be.
> >
> > - 'Draft dogging' - I believe the word is 'dodging.' In any case, Bush
>volunteered his services to the Texas Air Guard during Vietnam war, but was
>never called overseas. I think you have Bush and the former President
>confused on this one.
> >
> > - 'Fund siphoning' and 'big business bribe taking.'  Maybe I'm not
>watching or reading the same news sources as you, but as of today, I've not
>heard that proof has been found of either.
> >
> > - 'Planet polluting' - I hope you're not referring to drilling in 
>Alaska.
>I suppose we should save the caribou and depend on foreign sources of oil.
>Or maybe you're referring to that Kyoto treaty business again. Sorry if it
>just isn't what's best for America.
> >
> > And lastly, 'weasel faced car salesman'?  Please....
> >
> > You know, I almost can't believe that this is my first post to this 
>list,
>because really, Todd's remarks do not deserve a response.  However, in the 
>s
>pirit of debate and freedom of expression, I suppose such sentiments are
>legitimate, but is mere name calling (some of which if flat-out untruthful)
>the best way for us to submit our opinions?  I hope not.
> >
> > This is getting long, so I'll stop.  Hopefully, when and if I post 
>again,
>it will be on the topic of the Oils and their musics.
> >
> > Matt
> > --
> >
> >
> >
> > mmarzullo@usa.com
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> > Work: 631-5501
> > Cell: 713-0700
> >
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