Midnight Oil

[Powderworks] Capricornia promos on ebay

Michael Devall mdevall1@nc.rr.com
Thu, 14 Feb 2002 23:38:28 -0500


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I have the Diesel & Dust Interchords Album, but it is on vinyl.  I don't =
think it was ever put out on CD.  Plan 9 Music in Richmond had it in =
stock.  I believe the reason for the cutoff of the Capricornia promos on =
EBAY auctions is because although they're being sold illegally, it was =
in advance of the release date of the album which is a no no.  No one is =
supposed to have the album yet other than promoters.  Of course one =
can't stop a consumer from occasionally getting things early.  Law =
enforcement on illegal sale of promotional items is probably unlikely =
due to it happening all too often anyway, but it's not to say that one =
may come up.  If you're caught though selling unauthorized bootlegs =
you're screwed.  The artist doesn't want people selling their music for =
profit that they aren't getting reimbursed on.  Then again, the world is =
corrupt so who knows?  Do as one wishes and choose their own destiny.  =
Just remember that everyone pays in the end. (-:<C  Lattas....

Michael

                  =20
  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Jeff Bond=20
  To: Gabriel Luci ; powderworks@cs.colorado.edu=20
  Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2002 10:02 PM
  Subject: Re: [Powderworks] Capricornia promos on ebay


  Gabe,

  Thanks for thinking outside-of-the-box on this issue. =20

  Anyone who's ever purchased used records or CD's (regardless of =
whether it's on eBay or your local second-hand shop) has come across =
promo issues like this.  In fact, some of the best MO recordings are =
promo/demo releases.  This list has often discussed MO's "Green Disc", =
which is listed as "Demonstration - Not For Sale", not to mention the =
"Blue Sky Mining Interview Disc" and "Best of the B-Sides".  I'm still =
looking for a "Diesel and Dust Interview Disc".  And let's not forget =
how these CD's get to the resale sites, anyway - - the folks who first =
received them - - the record shops, local rock critics, and radio =
stations - - who make their living off of the recorded music industry.

  Sorry for the rant.  Happy Valentines Day.  Jeff
    ----- Original Message -----=20
    From: Gabriel Luci=20
    To: Michael Devall ; powderworks@cs.colorado.edu=20
    Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2002 1:22 PM
    Subject: Re: [Powderworks] Capricornia promos on ebay


    How about giving them away?

    --- Michael Devall <mdevall1@nc.rr.com> wrote:
    >      Just a reminder that in the United States
    > promotional items such as
    > promo CDs cannot be traded or sold legally.  The
    > same thing goes for bootleg
    > items.  It has to do with this thing called
    > copyright infringement.  I
    > believe such actions are considered felony offenses
    > under federal law, and
    > penalties can be severe if you are caught which may
    > include prison time and
    > of course a criminal record.  THIS IS NO JOKE.=20
    > Always think first.
    >      As for music promotions, some BMG labels suck
    > at promoting artists.
    > CMC International Records, which is a lesser known
    > label located here in the
    > Raleigh-Durham area, is a prime example.  They have
    > such classic rock
    > artists as Lynyrd Skynyrd, Styx, Tommy Shaw, Molly
    > Hatchet, Ratt, Blue
    > Oyster Cult, Nazareth and many other artists of such
    > stature.  The only new
    > albums of these artists that I've known promoted by
    > CMC International were
    > "Twenty" by Lynyrd Skynyrd, "Heaven Forbid" by Blue
    > Oyster Cult and "Seven
    > Deadly Zens" by Tommy Shaw.  Such albums like "The
    > Silent Reign Of Heroes"
    > by Molly Hatchet and "Brave New World" by Styx which
    > I thought were pretty
    > good were never really promoted.  RCA Records and
    > Arista Records, which are
    > the largest record labels through BMG, usually do
    > pretty good in music
    > promotions.  Our other record label here in the
    > Raleigh-Durham area, Mammoth
    > Records located in Carrboro, is also a very good
    > promoter.  They have our
    > popular local band The Squirrel Nut Zippers, plus
    > Seven Mary Three and Los
    > Lobos.  Mammoth Records is through WEA though, not
    > BMG.  Usually the larger
    > labels are the better promoters, but of course that
    > is not always the case.
    > Promotions depend not just on the label, but also
    > the producer, the
    > management, and the artists themselves.  But the
    > main thing that most
    > everything revolves around including music is always
    > going to be this
    > >> $$$.  Isn't politics wonderful?  TTFN...  Sorry
    > Peter, I meant to send
    > this message to the list, not just one person.
    >=20
    > Michael
    >=20
    >=20
    > > ----- Original Message -----
    > > From: "Peter Scott Poitras"
    > <pete.poitras@the-spa.com>
    > > To: <powderworks@cs.colorado.edu>
    > > Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2002 8:07 PM
    > > Subject: RE: [Powderworks] Capricornia promos on
    > ebay
    > >
    > >
    > > > Sigh.
    > > >
    > > > Funny how Liquid 8 is killing auctions.  They
    > certainly don't seem to be
    > > > taking the time to promote.  A bunch of us
    > filled out their form to be
    > > > volunteers to help hype the album/tour, and here
    > the album is supposed
    > to
    > > be
    > > > out in a week and we have heard NOTHING.  Also,
    > shows are being
    > announced
    > > > and on sale, and no contact either.
    > > >
    > > > And they freak and cancel auctions when the
    > promos were already taken
    > out
    > > of
    > > > circulation?!?  I understand that's not
    > necessarily the point of a
    > promo,
    > > > but then again, if they were being used at all,
    > they wouldn't be on eBay
    > > in
    > > > the first place.  I know, spoken as the guy who
    > was the high bidder on
    > the
    > > > Golden Age single...  :-(  And as we see from
    > Jon's message, cancelling
    > > the
    > > > auction has led to a giveaway, which isn't
    > helping the promotion either.
    > > >
    > > > Anyways, I'll go back to my cave.
    > > > Pete
    > > >
    > > > -----Original Message-----
    > > > From: powderworks-admin@cs.colorado.edu
    > > > [mailto:powderworks-admin@cs.colorado.edu]On
    > Behalf Of Helstad, Jonathan
    > > > R APX
    > > > Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2002 6:06 PM
    > > > To: 'powderworks@cs.colorado.edu'
    > > > Subject: [Powderworks] Capricornia promos on
    > ebay
    > > >
    > > >
    > > > Fellow Powderworkers:
    > > > You might find the message below interesting.
    > Liquid 8 has started
    > killing
    > > > auctions of Capricornia promos on ebay. Anyways,
    > I'll be getting the
    > promo
    > > > tomorrow from this guy free-of-charge because he
    > wasn't able to sell it
    > on
    > > > ebay! Cheers! Jon
    > > >
    > > >
    > > >
    > > >
    > > >
    > > > Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2002 3:53 PM
    > > > Subject: WARNING: eBay AUCTION REMOVED - VeRO
    > PROGRAM
    > > >
    > > >
    > > > >
    > > > >
    > > > > We regret to inform you that your auction:
    > > > >
    > > > >
    > > > >  Midnight Oil "Capricornia" promo advance CD
    > > > >
    > > > >
    > > > >
    > > > > has been ended at the request of Liquid 8
    > Records, a member
    > > > > of eBay's Verified Rights Owner (VeRO)
    > Program, because
    > > > > they filed a sworn statement that it offers a
    > product or contains
    > > > > material which violates their copyright,
    > trademark or other
    > > > > rights.  In the interest of protecting all
    > eBay users, we end
    > > > > such auctions to avoid any association with
    > potentially
    > > > > infringing or unlawful items.
    > > > >
    > > > > We understand that sometimes mistakes can be
    > made.  If
    > > > > you feel your auction was ended in error,
    > contact the VeRO
    > > > > Program Member directly by emailing them at
    > kdooley@liquid8records.com.
    > > > >
    > > > > Of course, eBay is available to answer
    > questions, but since only
    > > > > the rights owner understands their products
    > and policies, we
    > > > > encourage you to contact them first.  If we
    > agree a mistake has
    > > > > been made or the VeRO Program Member notifies
    > us, we will
    > > > > allow you to relist the item.
    > > > >
    > > > > We also understand that even if your item is
    > infringing, you may
    > > > > have been unaware of that fact, and may have
    > listed the item with
    > > > >  the best of intentions.  Unfortunately, even
    > if this is so, you still
    > > > > could face potential liability, so ending the
    > auction is still
    > > necessary.
    > > > >
    > > > >
    > > > >
    > > > >   All Bidders have been notified and any
    > associated
    > > > > fees have been credited to your account.
    > > > >
    > > > > **Keep in mind that listing of prohibited,
    > questionable or infringing
    > > > > items, or the re-listing of ended items
    > without the approval of eBay,
    > > > > can result in your suspension from eBay.
    > > > >
    > > > > Thank you for your cooperation.
    > > > >
    > > > > Regards,
    > > > > Lynn (whyended@ebay.com)
    >=20
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<DIV><FONT face=3DDolphin size=3D2>I have the Diesel &amp; Dust =
Interchords Album,=20
but it is on vinyl.&nbsp; I don't think it was ever put out on CD.&nbsp; =
Plan 9=20
Music in Richmond had it in stock.&nbsp; I believe the reason for the =
cutoff of=20
the Capricornia promos on EBAY auctions is because although they're =
being sold=20
illegally, it was in advance of the release date of the album which is a =
no=20
no.&nbsp; No one is supposed to have the album yet other than =
promoters.&nbsp;=20
Of course one can't stop a consumer from occasionally getting things=20
early.&nbsp;&nbsp;Law enforcement on illegal sale of promotional items =
is=20
probably unlikely due to it happening all too often anyway, but it's not =
to say=20
that one may come up.&nbsp; If you're&nbsp;caught&nbsp;though selling=20
unauthorized bootlegs you're screwed.&nbsp; The artist doesn't want =
people=20
selling&nbsp;their&nbsp;music for profit that they aren't getting =
reimbursed=20
on.&nbsp; Then again, the world is corrupt so who knows?&nbsp; Do as one =
wishes=20
and choose their own destiny.&nbsp; Just remember that everyone pays in =
the=20
end.&nbsp;(-:&lt;C&nbsp;&nbsp;Lattas....</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DDolphin size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DDolphin size=3D2>Michael</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DDolphin size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial=20
size=3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs=
p;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
</FONT></DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr=20
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  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
  <DIV=20
  style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
black"><B>From:</B>=20
  <A title=3Djeffbond@mindspring.com =
href=3D"mailto:jeffbond@mindspring.com">Jeff=20
  Bond</A> </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=3Dgluci@yahoo.com=20
  href=3D"mailto:gluci@yahoo.com">Gabriel Luci</A> ; <A=20
  title=3Dpowderworks@cs.colorado.edu=20
  =
href=3D"mailto:powderworks@cs.colorado.edu">powderworks@cs.colorado.edu</=
A>=20
  </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, February 14, =
2002 10:02=20
  PM</DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Powderworks] =
Capricornia=20
  promos on ebay</DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <DIV>Gabe,</DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV>Thanks for thinking outside-of-the-box&nbsp;on this issue.&nbsp; =
</DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV>Anyone who's ever purchased used records or CD's (regardless of =
whether=20
  it's on eBay or your local second-hand shop) has come across promo =
issues like=20
  this.&nbsp; In fact, some of the best MO recordings are promo/demo=20
  releases.&nbsp; This list has often discussed MO's "Green Disc", which =
is=20
  listed as "Demonstration - Not For Sale", not to mention the "Blue Sky =
Mining=20
  Interview Disc" and "Best of the B-Sides".&nbsp; I'm still looking for =
a=20
  "Diesel and Dust Interview Disc".&nbsp; And let's not forget how these =

  CD's&nbsp;get to the resale sites, anyway - - the folks who first =
received=20
  them - - the record shops, local rock critics, and radio stations - =
-&nbsp;who=20
  make their living off of the recorded music industry.</DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV>Sorry for the rant.&nbsp; Happy Valentines Day.&nbsp; Jeff</DIV>
  <BLOCKQUOTE=20
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    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
    <DIV=20
    style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
black"><B>From:</B>=20
    <A title=3Dgluci@yahoo.com href=3D"mailto:gluci@yahoo.com">Gabriel =
Luci</A>=20
    </DIV>
    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
title=3Dmdevall1@nc.rr.com=20
    href=3D"mailto:mdevall1@nc.rr.com">Michael Devall</A> ; <A=20
    title=3Dpowderworks@cs.colorado.edu=20
    =
href=3D"mailto:powderworks@cs.colorado.edu">powderworks@cs.colorado.edu</=
A>=20
    </DIV>
    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, February 14, =
2002 1:22=20
    PM</DIV>
    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Powderworks] =
Capricornia=20
    promos on ebay</DIV>
    <DIV><BR></DIV>How about giving them away?<BR><BR>--- Michael Devall =
&lt;<A=20
    href=3D"mailto:mdevall1@nc.rr.com">mdevall1@nc.rr.com</A>&gt;=20
    wrote:<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Just a reminder that in =
the=20
    United States<BR>&gt; promotional items such as<BR>&gt; promo CDs =
cannot be=20
    traded or sold legally.&nbsp; The<BR>&gt; same thing goes for=20
    bootleg<BR>&gt; items.&nbsp; It has to do with this thing =
called<BR>&gt;=20
    copyright infringement.&nbsp; I<BR>&gt; believe such actions are =
considered=20
    felony offenses<BR>&gt; under federal law, and<BR>&gt; penalties can =
be=20
    severe if you are caught which may<BR>&gt; include prison time =
and<BR>&gt;=20
    of course a criminal record.&nbsp; THIS IS NO JOKE. <BR>&gt; Always =
think=20
    first.<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; As for music =
promotions, some=20
    BMG labels suck<BR>&gt; at promoting artists.<BR>&gt; CMC =
International=20
    Records, which is a lesser known<BR>&gt; label located here in =
the<BR>&gt;=20
    Raleigh-Durham area, is a prime example.&nbsp; They have<BR>&gt; =
such=20
    classic rock<BR>&gt; artists as Lynyrd Skynyrd, Styx, Tommy Shaw,=20
    Molly<BR>&gt; Hatchet, Ratt, Blue<BR>&gt; Oyster Cult, Nazareth and =
many=20
    other artists of such<BR>&gt; stature.&nbsp; The only new<BR>&gt; =
albums of=20
    these artists that I've known promoted by<BR>&gt; CMC International=20
    were<BR>&gt; "Twenty" by Lynyrd Skynyrd, "Heaven Forbid" by =
Blue<BR>&gt;=20
    Oyster Cult and "Seven<BR>&gt; Deadly Zens" by Tommy Shaw.&nbsp; =
Such albums=20
    like "The<BR>&gt; Silent Reign Of Heroes"<BR>&gt; by Molly Hatchet =
and=20
    "Brave New World" by Styx which<BR>&gt; I thought were =
pretty<BR>&gt; good=20
    were never really promoted.&nbsp; RCA Records and<BR>&gt; Arista =
Records,=20
    which are<BR>&gt; the largest record labels through BMG, usually =
do<BR>&gt;=20
    pretty good in music<BR>&gt; promotions.&nbsp; Our other record =
label here=20
    in the<BR>&gt; Raleigh-Durham area, Mammoth<BR>&gt; Records located =
in=20
    Carrboro, is also a very good<BR>&gt; promoter.&nbsp; They have =
our<BR>&gt;=20
    popular local band The Squirrel Nut Zippers, plus<BR>&gt; Seven Mary =
Three=20
    and Los<BR>&gt; Lobos.&nbsp; Mammoth Records is through WEA though,=20
    not<BR>&gt; BMG.&nbsp; Usually the larger<BR>&gt; labels are the =
better=20
    promoters, but of course that<BR>&gt; is not always the =
case.<BR>&gt;=20
    Promotions depend not just on the label, but also<BR>&gt; the =
producer,=20
    the<BR>&gt; management, and the artists themselves.&nbsp; But =
the<BR>&gt;=20
    main thing that most<BR>&gt; everything revolves around including =
music is=20
    always<BR>&gt; going to be this<BR>&gt; &gt;&gt; $$$.&nbsp; Isn't =
politics=20
    wonderful?&nbsp; TTFN...&nbsp; Sorry<BR>&gt; Peter, I meant to =
send<BR>&gt;=20
    this message to the list, not just one person.<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt;=20
    Michael<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; &gt; ----- Original Message =
-----<BR>&gt;=20
    &gt; From: "Peter Scott Poitras"<BR>&gt; &lt;<A=20
    =
href=3D"mailto:pete.poitras@the-spa.com">pete.poitras@the-spa.com</A>&gt;=
<BR>&gt;=20
    &gt; To: &lt;<A=20
    =
href=3D"mailto:powderworks@cs.colorado.edu">powderworks@cs.colorado.edu</=
A>&gt;<BR>&gt;=20
    &gt; Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2002 8:07 PM<BR>&gt; &gt; Subject: =
RE:=20
    [Powderworks] Capricornia promos on<BR>&gt; ebay<BR>&gt; =
&gt;<BR>&gt;=20
    &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; Sigh.<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; =
Funny how=20
    Liquid 8 is killing auctions.&nbsp; They<BR>&gt; certainly don't =
seem to=20
    be<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; taking the time to promote.&nbsp; A bunch of =
us<BR>&gt;=20
    filled out their form to be<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; volunteers to help =
hype the=20
    album/tour, and here<BR>&gt; the album is supposed<BR>&gt; =
to<BR>&gt; &gt;=20
    be<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; out in a week and we have heard NOTHING.&nbsp;=20
    Also,<BR>&gt; shows are being<BR>&gt; announced<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; =
and on=20
    sale, and no contact either.<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; And =
they=20
    freak and cancel auctions when the<BR>&gt; promos were already =
taken<BR>&gt;=20
    out<BR>&gt; &gt; of<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; circulation?!?&nbsp; I =
understand=20
    that's not<BR>&gt; necessarily the point of a<BR>&gt; promo,<BR>&gt; =
&gt;=20
    &gt; but then again, if they were being used at all,<BR>&gt; they =
wouldn't=20
    be on eBay<BR>&gt; &gt; in<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; the first place.&nbsp; =
I know,=20
    spoken as the guy who<BR>&gt; was the high bidder on<BR>&gt; =
the<BR>&gt;=20
    &gt; &gt; Golden Age single...&nbsp; :-(&nbsp; And as we see =
from<BR>&gt;=20
    Jon's message, cancelling<BR>&gt; &gt; the<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; auction =
has led=20
    to a giveaway, which isn't<BR>&gt; helping the promotion =
either.<BR>&gt;=20
    &gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; Anyways, I'll go back to my =
cave.<BR>&gt; &gt;=20
    &gt; Pete<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; -----Original=20
    Message-----<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; From: <A=20
    =
href=3D"mailto:powderworks-admin@cs.colorado.edu">powderworks-admin@cs.co=
lorado.edu</A><BR>&gt;=20
    &gt; &gt; [mailto:powderworks-admin@cs.colorado.edu]On<BR>&gt; =
Behalf Of=20
    Helstad, Jonathan<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; R APX<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; Sent: =
Tuesday,=20
    February 12, 2002 6:06 PM<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; To: <A=20
    =
href=3D"mailto:'powderworks@cs.colorado.edu'">'powderworks@cs.colorado.ed=
u'</A><BR>&gt;=20
    &gt; &gt; Subject: [Powderworks] Capricornia promos on<BR>&gt; =
ebay<BR>&gt;=20
    &gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; Fellow =
Powderworkers:<BR>&gt;=20
    &gt; &gt; You might find the message below interesting.<BR>&gt; =
Liquid 8 has=20
    started<BR>&gt; killing<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; auctions of Capricornia =
promos on=20
    ebay. Anyways,<BR>&gt; I'll be getting the<BR>&gt; promo<BR>&gt; =
&gt; &gt;=20
    tomorrow from this guy free-of-charge because he<BR>&gt; wasn't able =
to sell=20
    it<BR>&gt; on<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; ebay! Cheers! Jon<BR>&gt; &gt; =
&gt;<BR>&gt;=20
    &gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; =
&gt;<BR>&gt; &gt;=20
    &gt; Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2002 3:53 PM<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; =
Subject:=20
    WARNING: eBay AUCTION REMOVED - VeRO<BR>&gt; PROGRAM<BR>&gt; &gt;=20
    &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; =
&gt;<BR>&gt;=20
    &gt; &gt; &gt; We regret to inform you that your auction:<BR>&gt; =
&gt; &gt;=20
    &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&nbsp; Midnight =
Oil=20
    "Capricornia" promo advance CD<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; =
&gt;=20
    &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; has been ended at =
the=20
    request of Liquid 8<BR>&gt; Records, a member<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; =
of=20
    eBay's Verified Rights Owner (VeRO)<BR>&gt; Program, because<BR>&gt; =
&gt;=20
    &gt; &gt; they filed a sworn statement that it offers a<BR>&gt; =
product or=20
    contains<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; material which violates their=20
    copyright,<BR>&gt; trademark or other<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; =
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