Midnight Oil

[Powderworks] Oils personal details... PG a veggoe?...Shhhh...

Luke Blackbourn lblackbourn@hotmail.com
Tue, 09 Apr 2002 15:11:29 +1000

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<P>Hmmm! I have it on good authority that&nbsp;no Powderworker should&nbsp;listen to, discuss,&nbsp;or even hum the tune to "In the Valley". Apparently it contains highly personal details of Peter Garrett's life, and even his emotions when confronted with personal tragedy, and as such is beyond the bounds of what this list is about. (In case someone takes this one seriously???- this is a joke).</P>
<P>But (semi) seriously, I think what&nbsp;this list has featured is not rampant, obsessive, going-through-their-garbage pursuit of the Oils, rather a broader knowledge of the band which helps to contextualise their music, and satisfy innate human curiosity with regard to people who we all (presumably) admire. It is nice to know that PG has a wife and 3 kids, as it would be nice to know if he&nbsp;lived in a cave and flayed himself with birch every morning. I was personally curious about the biblical references when I raced out &amp; bought Red Sails on its release. To find out that PG was a Christian who doesn't broadcast the fact to all &amp; sundry (but does admit to the fact) was quite illuminating.</P>
<P>Whilst we're on the topic, I'll reveal something Jim Moginie said to me in 1990. To those who disagree, don't read on. I asked what the hell he&nbsp;was thinking&nbsp;when he wore that bad paisley number during the Oils On the Water gig, he rolled his eyes and&nbsp;replied that all his mates hung it on him cos he looked like he was in his pyjamas on a national broadcast, whilst RH was rippling and sweating as per usual. Consequently he got rid of the shirt; and I don't believe he has worn paisley onstage since. Not an enormously exciting tidbit, but have a look next time you sit down to watch Oils on the Water.(BTW- I passed this info on to ASIO)</P>
<P>By the way, does anyone have Martin's home number. I wanted to ask him something.</P>
<P>Stand in line</P>
<P>PS If I ever get around to it, I'll trawl through my collection of i/views, columns etc and compile some sort of list of revelations that the Oils have made so we can verify what's ON THE RECORD.<BR><BR></P></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>&gt;To: powderworks@cs.colorado.edu 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;Subject: [Powderworks] Oils personal details... PG a veggoe?...Shhhh... 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;Date: Mon, 08 Apr 2002 17:43:25 +0000 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;Hi All, 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;Just my two cents on this really funny thread. This one is almost as 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;good as 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;the golf one! 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;I don't believe that any Oil's "personal" info that has been posted 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;inquired about on this list is not already public knowledge anyway. 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;In a television interview, PG stated that he was a vegetarian but 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;has been 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;known to eat a crustacean or two! Wow, too personal for me! Now, 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;imagine what could happen if this info got into the wrong hands huh? 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;Birthdates and marital status have been mentioned in print 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;interviews, and 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;are a matter of public record as well. BTW, for anyone that is 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;PG was married in 1986 and has 3 daughters. From a PG interview 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;printed in a 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;large Aussie newspaper in the year 2000. 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;You are right Maurice in your statement: 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;"I've been on the list a while, and in the past there was a general 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;consensus that the band's private life should remain private." 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;I don't think p'workers on the list feel any differently now. 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;I have been on the list for a long time as well, and have never seen 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;info published (even from those that have inside info)that the band 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;themselves divulged in an interview. 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;I think that many people are curious about the "famous" and the 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;curiosity on 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;this list is pretty benign. More pointedly, people are interested in 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;that they admire and look up to. There is nothing wrong with that. 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;So guys, why not chill out, enjoy the band and their music and let 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;enjoy the fact that maybe one of the guys shares the same birth date 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;&gt;From: "Maurice R. Kelly" <MKELLY@DEADHEART.ORG.UK>
<DIV></DIV>&gt;&gt;To: "fish_oil@space.com" <FISH_OIL@SPACE.COM>
<DIV></DIV>&gt;&gt;CC: "powderworks@cs.colorado.edu" <POWDERWORKS@CS.COLORADO.EDU>
<DIV></DIV>&gt;&gt;Subject: Re: [Powderworks] Oils personal details 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;&gt;Date: Mon, 8 Apr 2002 10:08:59 +0100 (BST) 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;&gt;On Apr 7, fish_oil@space.com wrote: 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;&gt; &gt; On Sat, 06 April 2002, "Geordie McMillan" wrote 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;&gt; &gt; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;&gt; &gt; &gt; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;&gt; &gt; &gt; I don't mean to sound like a complete prick but...why 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;&gt; &gt; does there seem to be 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;&gt; &gt; &gt; a recurring theme on this list about the personal 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;&gt; &gt; lives of the band? 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;&gt; &gt; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;&gt; &gt; I'll forgive you, as long as you weren't pouting with 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;&gt; &gt; hands on hips when you frothed this post out. Of course 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;&gt; &gt; I (and others) are interested in WHO the oils are - 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;&gt; &gt; exactly what is your problem with that? Some kind of 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;&gt; &gt; mythological sense of personal privacy? Or are you the 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;&gt; &gt; self appointed single handed saviour of the bands' 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;&gt; &gt; personal space? Can you tell I really didn't like your 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;&gt; &gt; tone? 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;&gt;I have to agree with Geordie. There have been a lot of requests for 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;&gt;personal information about the band of late. It should be of no 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;&gt;to us 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;&gt;when the birthday of the band is, whether they are married, and how 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;&gt;kids they have. 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;&gt;I think the fact that such personal information is already hard to 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;&gt;come by 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;&gt;should suggest that it should remain private. 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;&gt;I also don't like to see the information being circulated on 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;&gt;mailing lists 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;&gt;which are archived - the is the potential for mis-information to be 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;&gt;up by journalists, etc., or for a band with political views like 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;&gt;the Oils, 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;&gt;there could be the potential for the info being used in a harmful 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;&gt;way - 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;&gt;call me paranoid, but I'd rather be safe than sorry. 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;&gt;And I'm not some "self appointed single handed saviour of the 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;&gt;personal space?" I just think that unless the band members come out 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;&gt;openly tell us lots of personal info in an interview, we should 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;&gt;not bother to discuss it. 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;&gt; &gt; But being one that's asked about the bands' 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;&gt; &gt; personal lives and spiritual beliefs in an effort to 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;&gt; &gt; make sense of who, what and why the Oils are, I felt 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;&gt; &gt; compelled to respond. 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;&gt;Sorry, but I'm of the belief that you don't need to know anything 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;&gt;the bands' personal lives and spiritual beliefs in order to make 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;&gt;sense of 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;&gt;"who, what and why the Oils are" - in general the music and the 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;&gt;words and 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;&gt;the openly voiced opinions should probably be enough. 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;&gt;Maurice R. Kelly 
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