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Subject: Re: [powderworks] KotM
From: koala.sprint@gmail.com
Date: 4/04/2014, 4:03 pm
To: powderworks@yahoogroups.com.au, Kate Clarke , powderworks@yahoogroups.com.au

12%? You're lucky. 
The last and amazing statistics from dear old Spain show 27% official unemployment with a phenomenal 49% unemployment between ages 18 and 25. 
I can assure you that if your country is suffering from a brain drain, they are not coming here. Unless they really like sangria that is.

Stephen
From: Mathieu BREVIERE
Sent: Friday, 4 April 2014 07:46
To: Kate Clarke; powderworks@yahoogroups.com.au
Reply To: powderworks@yahoogroups.com.au
Subject: RE : Re: [powderworks] KotM

 

Hi Kate and powdies from all around the word.

I can copy and paste your mails about the drain brain and change the context "Australia" to "France".
An important difference : we realized a desindustralisation politic 10-15 years ago to increase tertiary employement.
Results : more than 12% of unemployement...
Drain brain to Germany, UK, USA, Canada and..... Australia !
Hope it will be better for you and your family soon.
Mathieu from France 


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Kate Clarke <kittycatbiscuits@yahoo.com.au> a écrit :


 

The problem is - most of my husbands colleagues who are able will go overseas. So the brain drain continues. They will all spread across New Zealand (apparently they have strong paper and dairy manufacturing) uk, selected areas of Asia (singapore, malaysia and thai) and "safe" parts of middle east. Some will stay and go to Perth, some regional qld. 

I have spent a bit of time in Italy and I can see a lot of similarities between our countries now, minus the corruption level.   Didn't france go through something similar in the 90's?

Kate


On 03/04/2014, at 3:26 PM, koala.sprint@gmail.com wrote:

 

I agree. If anyone wants to swap Oz for Spain, i'll move in a heartbeat. Beware though, the music is crap here.

Stephen
From: Miron Mizrahi
Sent: Thursday, 3 April 2014 02:52
Subject: Re: [powderworks] KotM

 

The good news is that despite everything that is wrong/bad with this country, it is still a FAR BETTER place to live than many others.

Sure, you could argue we should aim high and that comparing ourselves to Uganda, Philippines or Egypt, and feeling good about it, is fool's gold, and you would be right. But we all need to feel good sometimes.

I don't want to rant or start a heated political debate, so I will be brief :)

I could point to a lot of things that are - IMO - wrong. But I doubt this is useful. The only "way out" I see is by playing to our strengths - our human capital - and by having political leadership which is genuinely interested in what is good for the country (and a political constituency at a level a tad above halfwits). We need (digital) infrastructure, not submarines. We need R&D not manufacturing. We need one government not 8. Teachers and doctors are heroes, not athletes. but hey, what do I know? :)
 
Miron

How could people get so unkind?


From: Kate Clarke <kittycatbiscuits@yahoo.com.au>
To: "powderworks@yahoogroups.com.au" <powderworks@yahoogroups.com.au>
Cc: "powderworks@yahoogroups.com.au" <powderworks@yahoogroups.com.au>
Sent: Thursday, April 3, 2014 11:08 AM
Subject: Re: [powderworks] KotM

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No worries at all. The bigger question is - how the hell can Australia survive like this? I work in retail and it is beyond salvation - salaries are so high we can't afford to put more staff on. The staff I look after are scraping by on reduced hours.   Let's not even talk about health care and education which the rest of my family is in - if we could import labour into Australia trust me, the employers would jump at it. And essentially that is what BP has done, except the processing plant happens to be based in Singapore. 

Someone tell me some good new!