Yup, remember some years back when a troll was trying to sell some of the live stuff on Ebay? I think that's really what the cautious attitude is about - making sure no money changes hands when shows are traded.  Hmm, now I've just remembered that when I had no shows to trade, I send my benefactors a piece of jewelry I'd made or something like that.  In fact, I just did that a few weeks ago with Michael for a Knopfler show.  And I traded a dinosaur tooth to Seweryn for the T-shirt I'm wearing right now, though that's not a bootleg, so I guess it doesn't count.  So I suppose my personal moral code for Oils trades is: money is bad, but a thank-you present is OK.  - Beth
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Maurice Kelly 
  To: Andrew Lane 
  Cc: powderworks@yahoogroups.com.au 
  Sent: Saturday, October 04, 2008 4:47 AM
  Subject: Re: [powderworks] Digest Number 1226


  Andrew Lane wrote:

  > and i'm not arguing about the legal aspect, i'm talking about what happens
  > in practice. this entire list pretty much goes wild when there is a new show
  > to trade, let's face it. and further more, the view of not trading this type
  > of material doesn't benefit the band - it only benefits the record companies
  > - they are the only winners. midnight oil have all of US to thank for the
  > success they enjoyed. they can't really thank the record companies, or the
  > venues, or the awards, they can thank us, for buying their recordings every
  > single time, for going to as many shows as possible, for buying t shirts,
  > for talking about them, for being passionate and singing as loudly as we
  > can. we have all traded shows on this list for years, and will do for years
  > to come, that is my point. i think legal debates should be left to other
  > more boring lists, we are here to talk about and enjoy the oils, and if that
  > means i put on my burnt copy of a pub gig from the 70's and go wild, well
  > good for me! i'm not harming a soul!

  Before I go any further, I find your email to be argumentative without a 
  purpose. I do not recall saying that we would not continue to trade, I 
  simply was trying to point out why we trade carefully and respectfully. 
  We currently enjoy the ability to trade live shows without repurcussion 
  and we should be grateful for it. It's not a right that we should take 
  for granted.

  Cheers,

  Maurice


   

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