Midnight Oil

[Powderworks] Oil and UB40-@ red rocks

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I saw that tour when it stopped @ red rocks amphitheater in morrison =
colorado. in fact it was my first Oils gig. i was there to see midnight =
oil although ub40 were ok, better once i had a little weed ;)  as far as =
the ub40 audience's response to the Oils, well my memory is not as =
detailed as it once was ( i'm pushing thirty five ya know) but i do =
remember the feeling that midnight oil had overwhelmed the audience with =
energy. peter was over the top and commanded that mountain and all it's =
stoned pseudo reggae residents that day.
to make it clear - they were enthusiastically received!

ahh to be seventeen again

todd     =20
  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Laura Wolfe=20
  To: Powderworks=20
  Sent: Saturday, March 09, 2002 5:41 PM
  Subject: [Powderworks] Oil and UB40, SRV, M Burn, etc.


  Responses and comments re: other messages:

  I'm not sure what UB40's audience thought about Oil on the 85 tour?  =
They got a good response and always did an encore, and the horn section =
of UB40 came out for the end of Power and the Passion (that got a big =
response, of course).  But I'm sure many of them found the Oils too =
aggressive, too loud, impossible to dance to (except the verses of P&P), =
and too overtly political (although UB40 started out as a political =
reggae band -- UB40 is the form number of the unemployment application =
in the UK).  I think it was a badly conceived match and was probably a =
waste of Oil's time for that six weeks.  Their show at Irvine on 8/9/85 =
was 45 minutes of absolute intensity: Best of Both Worlds, Read About =
It, U.S. Forces, Kosciusko, Short Memory, Only the Strong, Don't Wanna =
Be the One, Power and the Passion, and Stand in Line.  Put THAT in your =
pipe and smoke it!

  Quick correction re: SRV opening for Men at Work in Seattle in 82.  He =
was killed in a helicopter crash in August 1990, quite a while later.

  Re: Malcolm Burn's production of "Breathe."  In a word, it sucks.  =
When Rob told me they were on their way to New Orleans to record with =
Burn, I asked who he was.  When he told me that he was a protege of =
Daniel Lanois (whom I like and respect), I told him that sounded like a =
really bad match to me.  I cautioned him to watch the drum sounds, =
something that Lanois (and his engineer, Burn) are lousy with.  I told =
him the drums would come out sounding like boxes or tin cans, and he =
said he'd keep an eye (ear) out for that problem.  And I was right (for =
once).  But I was certain there would be a clash of musical =
sensibilities and that it would hurt the album.  Just think what Warne =
Livesey or Nick Launay could have done with the same material, recorded =
in Sydney or London.  Everything that Lanois or Burn produce sounds the =
same.  Kind of lo-fi, basically.  It works great on Lanois' solo albums =
and for artists like Dylan and Emmylou Harris, but NOT for a guitar band =
like the Oils.  Like most Oil fans, I often wonder why they don't ask ME =
these things and then do what I tell them.  ;-)   I would have =
recommended Gavin McKillop (Toad the Wet Sprocket, The Chills, =
mid-period still-rockin' Goo Goo Dolls) or Jerry Harrison (ex-Talking =
Heads, who produced the first few, fantastic sounding albums by Live, as =
well as Crash Test Dummies and one other completely different act that =
escapes me at the moment) somewhere along the line.  Steve Lillywhite =
might have been a good choice, too (U2, Simple Minds, more recently Dave =
Matthews Band's first few CDs).

  OK, climbing down off my soapbox now.

  Bill Wolfe

  The thought manifests as the word;
  the word manifests as the deed;
  the deed develops into the habit;
  and habit hardens into character.
  So watch the thought and its ways with care,=20
  and let it spring from love
  born out of concern for all things.
  -- The Buddha


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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I saw that tour when it stopped&nbsp;@ =
red=20
rocks&nbsp;amphitheater in morrison colorado. in fact it was my first =
Oils=20
gig.&nbsp;i was there to see&nbsp;midnight oil although ub40 were ok, =
better=20
once i had&nbsp;a little weed ;)&nbsp; as far as the ub40 audience's =
response to=20
the Oils, well my memory is not as detailed&nbsp;as it once was ( i'm =
pushing=20
thirty five ya know) but&nbsp;i do remember the feeling that midnight =
oil had=20
overwhelmed the audience with energy.&nbsp;peter was over the top and =
commanded=20
that mountain&nbsp;and all it's stoned pseudo reggae residents that=20
day.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>to make it clear -&nbsp;they were =
enthusiastically=20
received!</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>ahh to be seventeen again</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial=20
size=3D2>todd&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;</FONT></DIV>
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  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
  <DIV=20
  style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
black"><B>From:</B>=20
  <A title=3Dcasalobo@lightspeed.net =
href=3D"mailto:casalobo@lightspeed.net">Laura=20
  Wolfe</A> </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
title=3Dpowderworks@cs.colorado.edu=20
  href=3D"mailto:powderworks@cs.colorado.edu">Powderworks</A> </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, March 09, 2002 =
5:41=20
  PM</DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> [Powderworks] Oil and =
UB40, SRV,=20
  M Burn, etc.</DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Responses and comments re: other=20
  messages:</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I'm not sure what UB40's audience =
thought about=20
  Oil on the 85 tour?&nbsp; They got a good response and always did an =
encore,=20
  and the horn section of UB40 came out for the end of Power and the =
Passion=20
  (that got a big response, of course).&nbsp; But I'm sure many of them =
found=20
  the Oils too aggressive, too loud, impossible to dance to (except the =
verses=20
  of P&amp;P), and too overtly political (although UB40 started out as a =

  political reggae band -- UB40 is the form number of the unemployment=20
  application in the UK).&nbsp; I think it was a badly conceived match =
and was=20
  probably a waste of Oil's time for that six weeks.&nbsp; Their show at =
Irvine=20
  on 8/9/85 was 45 minutes of absolute intensity: Best of Both Worlds, =
Read=20
  About It, U.S. Forces, Kosciusko, Short Memory, Only the Strong, Don't =
Wanna=20
  Be the One, Power and the Passion, and Stand in Line.&nbsp; Put THAT =
in your=20
  pipe and smoke it!</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Quick correction re: SRV opening for =
Men at Work=20
  in Seattle in 82.&nbsp;&nbsp;He was killed in a helicopter crash in =
August=20
  1990, quite a while later.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Re: Malcolm Burn's production of =
"Breathe."&nbsp;=20
  In a word, it sucks.&nbsp; When Rob told me they were on their way to =
New=20
  Orleans to record with Burn, I asked who he was.&nbsp; When he told me =
that he=20
  was a protege of Daniel Lanois (whom I like and respect), I told him =
that=20
  sounded like a really bad match to me.&nbsp; I cautioned him to watch =
the drum=20
  sounds, something that Lanois (and his engineer, Burn) are lousy =
with.&nbsp; I=20
  told him the drums would come out sounding like boxes or tin cans, and =
he said=20
  he'd keep an eye (ear) out for that problem.&nbsp; And I was right =
(for=20
  once).&nbsp; But I was certain there would be a clash of musical =
sensibilities=20
  and that it would hurt the album.&nbsp; Just think what Warne Livesey =
or Nick=20
  Launay could have done with the same material, recorded in Sydney or=20
  London.&nbsp; Everything that Lanois or Burn produce sounds the =
same.&nbsp;=20
  Kind of lo-fi, basically.&nbsp; It works great on Lanois' solo albums =
and for=20
  artists like Dylan and Emmylou Harris, but NOT for a guitar band like =
the=20
  Oils.&nbsp; Like most Oil fans, I often wonder why they don't ask ME =
these=20
  things and then do what I tell them.&nbsp; ;-)&nbsp;&nbsp; I would =
have=20
  recommended Gavin McKillop (Toad the Wet Sprocket, The Chills, =
mid-period=20
  still-rockin' Goo Goo Dolls) or Jerry Harrison (ex-Talking Heads, who =
produced=20
  the first few, fantastic sounding albums by Live, as well as Crash =
Test=20
  Dummies and one other completely different act that escapes me at the =
moment)=20
  somewhere along the line.&nbsp; Steve Lillywhite might have been a =
good=20
  choice, too (U2, Simple Minds, more recently Dave Matthews Band's =
first few=20
  CDs).</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>OK, climbing down off my soapbox=20
now.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Bill Wolfe</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>The thought manifests as the =
word;<BR>the word=20
  manifests as the deed;<BR>the deed develops into the habit;<BR>and =
habit=20
  hardens into character.<BR>So watch the thought and its ways with =
care,=20
  <BR>and let it spring from love<BR>born out of concern for all =
things.<BR>--=20
  The Buddha<BR></FONT></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>

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